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City Centre Road Improvements good for buses but neglect cycling and walking

Buses are a key and popular part of the transport mix but current proposals for City Centre Road Improvements from WMCA and Birmingham City Council have not been "cycle proofed". They create problems and dangers for cyclists and walkers especially in Bath Row. This is in contradiction to Birmingham Connected and Connected for Growth strategies which recognise that cycling and walking should be seen as a key part of the transport mix for the future.

There is a particular safety problem around the proposed "bus gate" in Bath Row and a missed opportunity for a cycling contra-flow lane on Cambridge St.

Please look at this excellent detailed analysis by Chris Lowe Chair of Push Bikes and, if you agree, respond and object to these proposals before the consultation ends on March 21st.

What's wrong with Bath Row Bus Gate proposals?

Just send your response to the WMCA and remind them of their own West Midlands Cycling Charter. All road changes and improvements should be promoting active travel for the future.

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I've responded supporting  Push Bikes proposals.

Also the Harborne Road bus lane proposals make no mention of BCR Phase 3 plans which were -

Five Ways to Greenfield Crescent - Shared-use footway with segregation
Greenfield Crescent to Augustus Road - Segregated two-way cycle track, inc road widening where required
Highfield Road junction - Junction upgrade to include new pedestrian and cycle stages on signals
Vicarage Road junction - Junction upgrade to include new pedestrian and cycle stages on signals
Augustus Road junction - Junction upgrade to include new traffic signals with pedestrian and cycle stages
Augustus Road to Nursery Road - Cycle lanes with segregation where possible
Harborne Local Centre - Minor measures to make local centre more cycle friendly

See here 

Although these plans have probably been mothballed it would make sense to resurrect them if changes are going to happen for buses.

Yes, I agree the current rush hour slow  queue from Harborne High Street to 5 ways begs for a modal  shift to a off road cycle facility I may have worked on

Please be aware that the bs gate on Bath Row issue is being tried to be addressed Dave

Forum thoughts would be helpful so please fire away

Not sure the off-road facility. i.e. Harborne Walkway is the solution. It's there already and I never use it for commuting even though it's 1 minute from my front-door. It takes about 20 minutes longer into town.  Lovely for walks and family rides though.

With a bit of vision the wide footpath opposite the White Swan could be used as a segregated cycle lane avoiding the death trap that, that junction is.

As LS points out there were plans for this and I went to a meeting about it in 2015. Hopefully it will be back on the agenda if the A34 and A38 are a success as plenty of people ride into the City that way


 
Former Highwayman said:

Yes, I agree the current rush hour slow  queue from Harborne High Street to 5 ways begs for a modal  shift to a off road cycle facility I may have worked on

George Road, the ring road crossing and Bath Row should have two way separated cycle lanes to make it safe for cyclists of all ages and abilities. I'm in Palma where this type of infrastructure is common and well used. Yet another city that is doing the right thing and not just building for motorists even though car ownership is high.



Former Highwayman said:

Please be aware that the bs gate on Bath Row issue is being tried to be addressed Dave

Forum thoughts would be helpful so please fire away

The wide footway was part of proposals I may hav ebeen involved with



Ryan Stait said:

Not sure the off-road facility. i.e. Harborne Walkway is the solution. It's there already and I never use it for commuting even though it's 1 minute from my front-door. It takes about 20 minutes longer into town.  Lovely for walks and family rides though.

With a bit of vision the wide footpath opposite the White Swan could be used as a segregated cycle lane avoiding the death trap that, that junction is.

As LS points out there were plans for this and I went to a meeting about it in 2015. Hopefully it will be back on the agenda if the A34 and A38 are a success as plenty of people ride into the City that way


 
Former Highwayman said:

Yes, I agree the current rush hour slow  queue from Harborne High Street to 5 ways begs for a modal  shift to a off road cycle facility I may have worked on

Birmingham Council never think, care, or plan for cycling when reconstructing road designs in the city. They miss opportunity every single time to make travelling safer! When I moved to Birmingham in 2013, I noticed this until I moved away in January 2018. 

2013: Digbeth Circle cycle lane removed and barrier installed to stop cars. But cycle lane was NEVER replaced, or put back.

2014: Pershore Road gets a 3rd lane (bus lane) squeezed into an already narrow road with no consideration for cyclists/pedestrians

2015: Bordesly Roundabout is redesigned to create a better motor traffic flow with no cycling considered. No cycle lanes/signals or crossings.

2015-2016: Tram line is installed on Corp Street with no consideration for cyclists, and cyclists are now banned from using the street. 

2018: Plans for new bus lanes/bus gates through and around Birmingham have no cycle planning what so ever!

In addition I strongly feel a 2-way cycle track could and should be made to cross over the ring road from Bath Row. I also think a 4-way traffic light NEEDS to be installed near the Tesco! I used to cycle that way for university and the city library, and for an advisory cycling route, the crossroad at the Tesco on Bathrow is insanity!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAo7B2I_RUA

Thanks for the feedback Gents!

There's a new consultation out on this. The right turn from the Middleway and pedestrian crossing appear to have been scrapped but still nothing for cyclists unless your bike can trigger a bus gate to change the lights. https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bath-row-george-road-t...

Theres also a new consultation for Sheepcote street.

I've written up a response to the two sets of plans for Push Bikes, and attached our formal responses.

Push Bikes' response

Briefly - the plans do very little for cycling, and in some places actually make walking and cycling options worse. I'm not impressed, especially as Lee Bank Middleway is part of the WM Strategic Cycle Network.

The right turn from the Middleway for motor traffic into Bath Row hasn't be scrapped though - the plans that were released with the consultation are just missing lots of details.

Do they take any notice of responses to consultations though?

Chris Lowe said:

I've written up a response to the two sets of plans for Push Bikes, and attached our formal responses.

Push Bikes' response

Briefly - the plans do very little for cycling, and in some places actually make walking and cycling options worse. I'm not impressed, especially as Lee Bank Middleway is part of the WM Strategic Cycle Network.

The right turn from the Middleway for motor traffic into Bath Row hasn't be scrapped though - the plans that were released with the consultation are just missing lots of details.

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