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I'd really prefer something small but good like this that might attract local families than a waste of money on paint and ASLs that changes nothing. Given the news this morning though, cycling really needs proper investment -advice recommending covering up babies in an attempt to protect them from air pollution on the school run shows we've reached a new low.

Fair point, but there is no point building half a cycle highway to Perry Bar if you don't have the money or recourse to finish it off. Its like building a new motorway to London but it stop half way. No one is going to use it or if so very little as it does not go the distance.

The route to Selly Oak plans are much better completed. As the resources are available it can be built in one go, therefore when it is finished its likely to be much more heavily used. London did the same with the cycle highways on the embankment. They built it over 2 years connecting it all in one go over the 2 years. 

Could you imagine how few cyclist would use the London cycle highways if they built half of it in 2 years then said "We don't have enough money, resources or plans for the next phase. Lets leave it unfinished just meters from Blackfrairs Bridge, and make it tricky for cyclists".

Like no one would be cycling on there if they did not complete it. This is what they need to do with the A34! It needs to be a completed plan that goes from A (City Centre near Childrens Hospital) to Perry Bar (One Stop). If it stops half way and can't be completed for another 2-3 years without phase 2 plans the cycle route on the A34 is as good as useless really. 


Robert said:

Your argument is an argument for never starting, since there are never going to be the resources available to magic into place all in one go the changes that need to be made to bring Birmingham's infrastructure into the 21st century.   Don't forget that if BCC don't make a start, the government will simply take back the CCAG money, and you'll get nothing.

There are lots of places this route wont take you, including the One Stop Shopping Wotnot, but like the Rea Valley Route, it will encourage people to make journeys by bike that they would otherwise not make, and that strengthens the argument for doing more to allow people to cycle safely.   As for Perry Barr, you're right, it does need major work done to it, which is why it is being left for a later phase.

ARKrider said:

If the council does not have the resources they should wait till they do have such resources.

The options are: 

1. Build it in sections

2. Dont build it at all

There is no other option.

Simple choice. I'm going for the former as that means we'll end up with a reasonable cycle route, that is still useful to a number of people before the second section is started.

Doesnt matter how many times you demand fully segregated lanes on every dc in brum, all by next week, it aint going to happen.  Further more it undermines your position when you actually ask for something that is achievable as youve already demonstrated that you dont really have a grasp of the reality of implementing a useable cycle network in the current economic and political environment.

Thank you for opening that door.   In the 1980s I made many trips to Swansea and back along the M4.   Unfortunately when I was making that journey the M4 didn't get as far as Swansea (it ended at Port Talbot).   A brief history of the M4 is:

  • the Ministry of Transport announced plans for the M4 as one of the first major post-war trunk road improvement projects in 1956.   They originally intended that the M4 would terminate at Tredegar Park west of Newport.
  • The English section of the motorway was completed on 22 December 1971 when the 50-mile (80 km) stretch between Junctions 9 and 15 (Maidenhead and Swindon) was opened to traffic.
  • The Welsh section (as far as just North of Pontarddulais) was completed in 1993.

By your argument, the government should have waited until the late 1980s to start building the M4.   Fortunately for me (and millions of other people) they didn't, which meant I had a motorway for most of my journey.   Yes it also meant I had to tolerate the awful connection between Port Talbot and Swansea, but better that than an awful road for over hundred and fifty miles, don't you think?


ARKrider said:

Fair point, but there is no point building half a cycle highway to Perry Bar if you don't have the money or recourse to finish it off. Its like building a new motorway to London but it stop half way. No one is going to use it or if so very little as it does not go the distance.

Minton Road Link to Woodgate Valley Country Park

Following the previous consultation carried out in 2015, Birmingham City Council have revised the proposals for the new cycling and walking path from Minton Road to West Boulevard. This is in line with comments received at the last public consultation.

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/place/minton-road-link-to-wood...

Closes 23/7/17

Bourn Brook Walkway Link to Harborne Lane

This new link will create a better access for all from Bourn Brook Walkway on to Harborne Lane and further onto Selly Oak and The University. 

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/place/bcr-bourn-brook-walkway-...

Closes 30/7/17

I've just received an update on this as the expected date was "by June". 

Thank you for your query regarding the installation of the cycle parking proposed last year within the Colmore BID area. The installation has been held up due to a delay in getting the approvals for 1) installing cycle parking in a pay and display space and 2) approval for the cycle stands in Snow Hill Station.

 

These approvals are almost in place and will be putting the works out to tender shortly. If the final agreements come through it should all be in place by the middle of September in time for Bike To Work Day.

I haven't seen any consultation on other areas within the city centre although my definition of shortly is probably different to BCC's.



LS said:

Cycle Parking – Colmore BID

This consultation relates to the first tranche of proposed cycle parking within the City Centre and is focussed on the Colmore Business Improvement District area. Consultation on other areas within the city centre will follow shortly.

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bcr-cycle-parking-colm...

Closes 26/11/16 

Some new canal access improvements

Proposed Improvements to Grand Union Canal access point at Lincoln Road, Acocks Green

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/canal-access-point-lin...

Proposed Improvements to canal access point - Grand Union Canal at Yardley Road

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/canal-access-point-gra...

Proposed Improvements to canal access - between Curbar Road and Perry Park Crescent, Perry Barr

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/copy-of-canal-access-p...

Proposed Improvements to Worcester Birmingham Canal access point at Pershore Road, Breedon Cross

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/canal-access-point-at-...

Tame Valley Canal - Brookvale Road Access

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/tamevaleycanal-brookva...

Close on 25/8/17

As cycle to work day is tomorrow I checked and have now been told this should be done by the end of the year. Over 12 months to get a few stands installed.

LS said:

I've just received an update on this as the expected date was "by June". 

Thank you for your query regarding the installation of the cycle parking proposed last year within the Colmore BID area. The installation has been held up due to a delay in getting the approvals for 1) installing cycle parking in a pay and display space and 2) approval for the cycle stands in Snow Hill Station.

 

These approvals are almost in place and will be putting the works out to tender shortly. If the final agreements come through it should all be in place by the middle of September in time for Bike To Work Day.

I haven't seen any consultation on other areas within the city centre although my definition of shortly is probably different to BCC's.



LS said:

Cycle Parking – Colmore BID

This consultation relates to the first tranche of proposed cycle parking within the City Centre and is focussed on the Colmore Business Improvement District area. Consultation on other areas within the city centre will follow shortly.

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bcr-cycle-parking-colm...

Closes 26/11/16 

Yardley Cemetery and Lyndon Playing Fields Green Route

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bcr-yardley-lyndon-gre...

Castle Bromwich Green Route

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bcr-castle-bromwich-gr...

Close 6th October


Birmingham Cycle Revolution - Cycle Parking 2017

This is good. I think. Lots of new cycle stands and cycle hoops in the city centre including locations where hoops will  be useful as bikes are often parked on posts e.g. John Bright Street, Station Street (both locations I have pointed out to the council).

I have doubts about installing hoops on railings as the railings are adequate in most cases without them. The ones by the Town Hall and the bottom of Hill Street are often ignored. The money might be better spent elsewhere.

I don't like the look of the planter stand on page 14.

Installation is due to start in Spring 2018 although stands proposed for Colmore BID last year are still outstanding.

Consultation closes on 17th November 2017.

https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/bcr-cycle-parking-2017/

That planter is stoopid.  With flat bar bikes youd only be able to use every other one at most.  If you turned every other bike around then you will get bar ends ripping saddles. And thats not to mention the issue of being sble to reach the lock on the centre ones when its full.

You know all those surveys you see on fora for undergrad design projects...i bet this is the result of one ;-)

good news if we get new (practical) stands though.

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